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Originally posted by Milla:
IMO Staind won't get poolitical on the new album... Their music has always been about personal feelings, I think maybe there will be a song about social problems (like Paper Jesus, Open your Eyes or Fray) but not a political one.


agreed, i mean ok, they may try a political song but staind have always been about personal lives, not the politics


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Exaactly the reason they need to do something different... people seem to forget that music is an art form. You dont see great artists painting the same picture but with different colors each time. Every good band on earth has gone through a maturing process, and thats why they are the "good" bands.
 
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Plus, either way there will still be many songs about personal feelings and such, hopefully not every song though.
 
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But it seems a little contradictory to what they talk about, moving on, maturing, progressing in their music.


I couldn't disagree more. To me it fits in PERFECTLY w/the things you mentioned above. I've sonewhat explained my thoughts on this on another board, but I'll try here.

See, basically a lot of Aaron's lyrics have been leaning toward saying more and more that he's been there, done that, and is over it...worked on it all. In a way saying he feels he's fixed (Mind you, I'm completely simpliying for my theory). Kind of how a brand new 'Born Again Christain,' a brand new '12-stepper,' and how MANY that are just beginning a new way of living are, after just finally 'seeing the light'/changing their life. But, most, particularly the truly enlightened, soon find that despite their new way of living/dealing/veiwing things, they are in fact just beginning...they aren't done, but are a constant work in progress. They still must deal w/negative thoughts/feelings/people, etc. They will still experience anger, pain, hurt, etc. It's NOT that one hasn't progressed GREATLY, and they can/should be happy w/their life, overall. But, that the original euphoria of when you grow/change so much that you are finally able to let stuff go, forgive, be thankful/appreciative, etc, can be so great that when some reality hits (and it ALWAYS does...it's part of life), you find that the level of progress you THOUGHT you acheived was an illusion. That you're not all done, you still have a lot to work on, and always will. You'll still feel sadness, anger, resentment, and other negative things. Just hopefully you've progressed enough to not let them consume you so, to stay overall happy and content w/yourself and your life, even while feeling/dealing w/these negative things/people/emotions.

I concede that I could be TOTALLY and completely off on this being why it's the tentative title. Like I said, it may not even be deep or really meaningful, at all, but something as benign as their displeasure w/the album still not being done, everytime they think they've finished it lol. But, if I'm on the right track, then this would in fact say that the acknowledgement of the Illusion of Progress in fact shows he/Staind has further progressed, matured, etc.



~OK i see what you mean, and in that aspect the title could work. Just the sound of Progress being an "Illusion" is a bit weird. I understand your idea of continual feelings and experiences and such, but everyone moves forward and learns from the past/present.Well hopefully. Maybe they are trying to say and you kind of said, that they are still the same band we love and are simply telling a story along the way. We'll have to wait for the album to get a solution at this, ill look forward to hearing opinions then.
 
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Maybe the album will be a little heavyer than the last couple. Maybe they are refering to the last couple of albums as illusions of progress... Then again, maybe we are reading into this WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much... I bet you they just thought the name sounded cool...
 
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I don't think Staind choose something only because of the sound it has, there's alays a meaning in what they do, imho.


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yeah but it's all an "Illusion", you may think they are making progress but it's an illusion.


I know I am weighing in late...But, I think it's a great name because it's saying that you may be in a different place and it may appear from the outside that you have progressed...But, inside you are still "that" person...the same feelings, the same "dysfunction"...Your just better at hiding it...success creates "The Illusion of Progress"...


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Maybe the album will be a little heavyer than the last couple. Maybe they are refering to the last couple of albums as illusions of progress... Then again, maybe we are reading into this WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much... I bet you they just thought the name sounded cool...


if you been with staind since the beginning the title is pretty self explanatory.


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mike sings vocals for every song... aaron being the lead singer for the past year has always been an illusion!!!!!


 
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Paper Jesus is about organized religion and how money hungry they are.


You know one sign of truth? Find a organization that doesn't require money contributions. Most churches ask for money and i've seen ATM's at churches!!! Jesus preached for free and anyone that HAS to pay for a bible fell into the hole of false religion.


I see your point; however, in the world we live in, everything requires money, bibles don't get made for free, churches don't get built/cleaned/heated/coold/maintained for free, so for the most part they aren't wrong for asking for money from their "members" in order to pay the bills.
... the ones who wish to control your money and make a profit (what I consider to be organized religion) are definitely wrong in doing so...



Your right.. Of course you need money to build, print literature, maintenance on building, and all that but that should be made in voluntary donations. Not requirements. What is the main focus here? It's not how big and fancy a church looks or who can build the nicest playground.. it should be about worshiping god. I think it's ridiculous to get paid for teaching someone about god too. Jesus didn't get paid to tell everyone about his father.. why should anyone else?


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Can't wait for the new cd and tour!!!! Yaaaay


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I think the title has to do with how much aaron feels he's changedover the years, but is also realizing howmuch he really just learned to deal with things. Nothing ever really goes away, just becomes less important. His depression and problems he had, have taken the back burner persay to being a father of 3, having a wife, and just living the life he does now. He's still the same person, just difference surroundings.
It's the illusion he's changed, but he's still angry perhaps?
I hope so....
I want riffs, not melodies.


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I think the title has to do with how much aaron feels he's changedover the years, but is also realizing howmuch he really just learned to deal with things. Nothing ever really goes away, just becomes less important. His depression and problems he had, have taken the back burner persay to being a father of 3, having a wife, and just living the life he does now. He's still the same person, just difference surroundings.
It's the illusion he's changed, but he's still angry perhaps?
I hope so....
I want riffs, not melodies.


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Another band, Rise Against has a new album coming out also called The Illusion of Progress..Just thought that was an interesting little tidbit lol


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wow. huh. i wonder if staind will keep the name now


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Another band, Rise Against has a new album coming out also called The Illusion of Progress..Just thought that was an interesting little tidbit lol

I just did a search and couldn't find any info. where did you hear this?


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read it in Alternative Press magazine. here's a scan of the article that mentions it:


whoa sorry that is gigantic lol I don't know how to make it smaller..


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OH SHIT! thanks so much I will send this to management.


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tell management to put the album out sooner and beat them to it. haha


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^ Yea, do what Lefty said! lol


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