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Originally posted by wyler:
That's a SHAME about those horses and they deserve much better. But one question to all. The owner said that she wanted more than $2000 per horse from Pets Alive. Where is Rob and Mari's money that theymake from all of us,do to his concerts,CD's and merchandise? Rob and Mari has Millions of dollars and the owner easily would have accepted a large sum of moany(like $10,000 per horse,ect). Rob and Mari are asking us for help(money of whatever we can do),where is their money,that they made from us and saving all the horses,they have enough to do this. WE DON"T. Now before you jump on my back I do love Rob and his music and I have seen him several times in the past and planning to go to Foxwoods this coming Oct. 5th,but my daughter and I just barely have enough money to do this. Rob is a MILLIONAIRE!!! ROB SAVE THE HORSES!!!

I'm not gonna jump on you...I understand your point...but Rob and Mari ARE PA's single biggest supporters...without them, Pets Alive would have closed by now...and 600 more dogs would die each year...without the upcoming benefit, organized by Mari and her mom, Pets Alive would be forced to close their doors November 1...the cost to run the shelter is $40,000 a month...no one can do this alone...I, for one, am very,very proud to help Rob and Mari help Pets Alive keep doing the wonderful work they do....trust me...Rob and Mari don't just talk the talk...they really DO walk the walk....

(((((Rob and Marisol))))))

Angela

aww.. that is so horrible. We have had situations like this case in washington state, where animal control siezed the horses and took them to Pasado's safe haven. But the owners actually believed that the horses were fine etc. It's just insane!

If you really care about animals, as do I & I'm assuming most Rob Thomas fans do, allow me to make a suggestion. Don't vote Republican this November. Sarah Palin is NOT someone we want in the White House.

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Originally posted by JerseyGirl823:
If you really care about animals, as do I & I'm assuming most Rob Thomas fans do, allow me to make a suggestion. Don't vote Republican this November. Sarah Palin is NOT someone we want in the White House.

I'm afraid I'm right there with ya on that one...

Angela

For God's sake, would you two take your little pissing contest to private messages?? Bad enough it's on one board, we surely don't need it on two.

Hi guys,

I happened to be checking the site, when I ran across a response to my "Where is the Justice" thread, which is now in the archives.

There was a post by a person named Jeannine who apparently likes to go by the name Poisonous Rabbit...hmmm...interesting choice of names.

I was appalled and sickened to read her twisted and distorted version of the story. How she claims that these horses, one of which she claims is hers, are healthy and should be returned.

And that she believes that Pets Alive is trying to keep them to make money from them.

I am so disturbed by this, that I could cry. I myself with Rob have spent hours at Pets Alive visiting with these horses.

We've seen them go from a bag of bones, afraid of people coming near them, to happy and content and running over when hearing their names.

We've seen Baxter so frail and full of worms that he could barely stand, now standing beside his mommy.

He was so malnourished that he is still much smaller than a horse his age should be. But with the help of everyone at Pets ALive, he is coming along beautifully.

To say that Pets ALive is trying to profit off these horses is an outrage. They have spent thousands of dollars to save these horses and bring them back to health.

In their former life these poor creatures, were forced to work on this "dude ranch", carrying people day in and day out. Without food, water, or a place to sleep.

Now you tell me, who was the one profiting off of their misery.

Jeannine says she looks forward to the day that Matt from Pets Alive is arrested. Well, they will be arresting Rob and I as well.

And we promise that the world will know the truth. We will make sure we have no rest, until they do and these horses are safe.

And again, I want to thank all of you wonderful people out there for your continued support.

We love you
Mari

This is a reply to Wyler. When I came on the board originally asking for help, it was not for people to give us the money to "save" Carrie and Baxter.
It was for people to take notice of the abuses that go on in this world, and to try to make your own stand, however it may be.
Volunteer at a local shelter, sponsor an animal, fight for change in legislation, etc.
And yes, you are correct. Rob and I are blessed and we make sure that we try and give back.
And if you must know we have offered to buy the horses ourselves, but sometimes things aren't always that black and white.
I'm sorry people choose to assume the worse.
Mari

POISONOUSRABBIT! YOU NEED TO STOP! YOU DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING!

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Wow, my twisted and distorted story? I have no story.

Well that pretty much sums it up right there.

If you have no story as you say, you are only here to cause trouble.

People have been known too be told to 'Kindly Fuck Off' when doing that

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People like you make me sick, just because you and your husband are celeberties doesn't mean things that come out of your mouth is the truth

Hey rabbit why cant you just shut that trap of yours ? You just go on and on . I bet that your not married because who the hell could deal with a retard like you ! Does it burn you that they are celeberties ?? HAHAHAHHAA GOOD ! ! ! !
I hope you fall off your horse , oh sorry I forgot you dont feed him so that means you cant ride him ( to weak ) let me take a guess you are about 5'3" to 5'5" 235lbs and a mess so your mad at the way you look and the money you make so you just go at who ever you can . Gues what ... not in this house you cant . This site is for fun and fans not your sorry ass .
Why dont you just take your sorry ass and beat it ! Go to another site , move on . Trust me not one person on this site takes you serious . You made a foul of yourself .

Hey Mari Please take the TRASH out ....... just delete her ass and dont waste your time with it !

FEED YOUR HORSE RABBIT !

Couple articles about these horses, from upstate NY newspapers.

http://www.saratogian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20018925...dept_id=602469&rfi=6

Neglected horses seized from farm
08/15/2008

Authorities seized 17 malnourished and neglected horses from the Black River Stable in Cherry Plain, Rensselaer County, Wednesday, and animal cruelty charges are pending.


According to Brad Shear, the executive director of the Mohawk & Hudson Humane Society, his organization was working with Thelma and Mary Wadsworth for a year trying to improve the conditions of the stable to no avail.

"During our investigators' first visit, we gave the Wadsworths a feeding and care plan to improve the condition of the horses," Shear said. "Conditions were poor for these horses a year ago, but over time they were deteriorating."

Humane Society investigators visited the stable nearly once a month for a year and gave them a sustainable and workable feeding and care plan.

"There horses were far too thin, and there was not appropriate food available on the property," Shear said. "We were hoping the Wadsworths would take care of these issues with our help, but they seemed to ignore the needs of these animals."

The horses were voluntarily picked up by multiple equine rescue groups: Horse Feathers Farm in Canastota; Easy Street Rescue in Amsterdam; Equine Emergency Transportation in Dutchess County; and Pets Alive in Middletown.

The stable provides trail rides, pony rides at parties and a day camp.

"Although the horses were in terrible condition, they appear to have still been in service for the owners to make money on their trail-riding business," Shear said.

Animal cruelty charges are pending in the case.

- James V. Franco

http://timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?StoryID=712408&LinkFrom=RSS

Horse owners accused of neglect
Humane society seizes 17 animals it says were malnourished at Berlin stable

By PAUL GRONDAHL, Staff writer
First published in print: Saturday, August 16, 2008

BERLIN -- Photos of a group of horses and ponies seized from a stable in the hamlet of Cherry Plain show their ribs, backbones and hips standing out on their hides, a topographic map of malnourishment.

They are named Clyde and Danny and Carrie and Baxter.

They were work animals that had provided pony rides at parties, a day camp and trail rides to generate income for Thelma and Mary Wadsworth, the mother-daughter proprietors of Black River Stable in this rural Rensselaer County town near the Massachusetts border.

A total of 17 horses and ponies were seized Wednesday by humane society investigators, who determined them to be malnourished and neglected. A few had lost up to half their normal weight, according to rescue volunteers now caring for them. The owners, who dispute the charges, face up to 17 counts of animal cruelty.

"They were bad. One horse was so weak it could barely stand," said Susan Bloser, manager of Horsefeathers Farm in Canastota, Madison County, who is caring for 10 of the animals.

"I think the owners were just overwhelmed," Bloser said.

"The vet called them emaciated and several of them were in very bad condition, barely standing," said Brad Shear, executive director of the Mohawk and Hudson River Humane Society, which conducted the seizure along with State Police.

Shear said humane society investigators, acting on a call from a concerned person, began working with the Wadsworths a year ago to help them shape an adequate program of care.

"Things got worse, it crossed the line and we had to take action," Shear said. He added that the owners were "resistant" to the suggestions and "angry that someone was telling them what to do."

The owners challenged the humane society's version of the events that led to the seizure.

"There are two sides to every story," said the daughter, Mary Wadsworth. "This wasn't about the stable. It was a personal vendetta against me."

Wadsworth would not elaborate, but said the investigators "showed photos of the three worst ones," including one horse she was treating for Lyme disease.

She pointed out that two draft horses and her daughter's dressage horse kept at their stable are healthy equine specimens.

Wadsworth denied she was feeding the horses and ponies stale doughnuts and bread in place of costly hay and grain, as investigators charged.

"That was used to feed the bears and the horses got into it," she said of the doughnuts and bread. "Nothing is straight with what they're saying. It's a witch hunt."

Bloser is feeding the rescued animals carefully, five times a day, with small amounts of special feed, soaked alfalfa cubes, sugar beets and a weight-building supplement.

It will take about four months to nurse the horses and ponies back to good health and then they'll likely be put up for adoption, Bloser said.

"This is stretching my feed and hay bill, but we believe in no horse left behind," Bloser said.

Wadsworth said an angry backlash and threatening calls have convinced her to put the three-year-old business up for sale.

"I can't take this anymore. I'm out of here," she said.

reading those posts on the last pages makes me sad. I'm so sorry you had to read them Mari.

(((Mari))) (((peeps at Pets Alive)))

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Originally posted by *Annette*:

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Wow, my twisted and distorted story? I have no story.

Well that pretty much sums it up right there.

If you have no story as you say, you are only here to cause trouble.

People have been known too be told to 'Kindly Fuck Off' when doing that

This story is far from funny but this made me lmao! Haha

go marisol!way to defend yourself i dont like when people assume one thing or the worst when they dont know anything as well.i apreciate what u guys and others do to help be it give your money or ur time...the fact is animals are abused and it is quite sad its even more sad its something were arguing with each other over...i guess ill just finish with saying i really apreciate that people help especialy rob and marisol and that they keep in touch with the fans not alot of artists do that rsally i can only think of rob.so thx for all u guys do...

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Originally posted by Marisol Thomas:
This is a reply to Wyler. When I came on the board originally asking for help, it was not for people to give us the money to "save" Carrie and Baxter.
It was for people to take notice of the abuses that go on in this world, and to try to make your own stand, however it may be.
Volunteer at a local shelter, sponsor an animal, fight for change in legislation, etc.
And yes, you are correct. Rob and I are blessed and we make sure that we try and give back.
And if you must know we have offered to buy the horses ourselves, but sometimes things aren't always that black and white.
I'm sorry people choose to assume the worse.
Mari

Marisol,
You are so right. People just assume they have the whole picture and make assumptions without the full info. It's inspiring that you are using your celebrity status to do some good in our society when so few good things seem to be happening currently. I think your true fans can see through your posts how devoted you and Rob are to helping the animals.

Much love,
Lynn02