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Originally posted by Rob's_Alien:

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Originally posted by crushonrob:

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Originally posted by Rob's_Alien:
*facepalm* Thank you for fixing that stuff, Kate. I clearly can't remember enough from just one viewing.

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Originally posted by crushonrob:
I think what Dean said to Sam at the parking lot was very harsh given that even Bobby was prepared to forgive Sam. He told Sam that he didn't believe he could ever trust him again which totally stunned and hurt Sam judging by the look on his face.

I think the Sam fangirl was hilarious. I laughed out loud when she wouldn't stop touching him either.

They did say at the con though that they will be bringing Sam and Dean back together so I'm not going to get too upset about what's going on now. I think though that Dean is going to eventually have to allow Michael to enter him. I can't see else they could possibly beat Lucifer now that he has his vessel and he's supposed to be nearly unbeatable.

The bit about not trusting Sam again was the last straw for me. I want Sam to hit back with the fact that his trust in Dean is severely damaged after all of this too. Does Dean want Sam to commit suicide? Is that it? Dean didn't kill him or save him, so now it'll clean everything up nicely if Sam will be so kind as to off himself? Because honestly? I don't know how Sam could NOT be suicidal right now. And Dean, he's not doing a damn thing to change that. To the contrary, he's encouraging it. Nice work there, Dean.

I thought the Samgirl was very amusing. Perhaps a bit too crazy. But amusing.

They have said that. But I've learned the hard way not to trust a thing that comes out of Kripke's mouth (see the whole never having angels on the show debacle for starters). I'm also highly discouraged by the way that Jensen was begging us to write in and say we wanted more Sam, to give him some time off, because apparently Jensen's been doing a lot more shooting than Jared has. He also said something to that effect at the breakfast, I'm told. Sure, he was at least partially joking. But even partially is too much. Kripke can blather on and on about bringing the brothers back together, and how they're equal in his mind all he wants. It's obviously a lot of hot air.

I understand how you feel. I was a bit taken aback at what Dean said too. But I was thinking that maybe it was also kind of spurred on by the conversation he had with demon-Bobby when he was going on and on about how he and Dean should've offed Sam when they thought they couldn't save him. And also demon-Bobby going on and on about how what Sam did is monumentally unforgiveable. I kind of have a sneaking suspicion that the demons are really also trying to drive a huge wedge between the boys and it's working because Dean is stupidly falling for all of it. And you know what, the angels don't need Sam either so they might also try to come between them. I dunno. Maybe Castiel will bring Dean to his senses because back when demon-Bobby was saying how what Sam did was unforgiveable and it's his fault I was thinking, but Dean was the one who broke the first seal albeit without knowing it but then Sam also broke the last seal without knowing it too. Yes, the whole trusting Ruby thing was a BAD mistake. But hey, even I would've trusted that first Ruby. She seemed to be for real. Oh well. I'll be curious to see what develops. I'm liking the direction they seem to be indicating that Castiel is going alot. I think he's going to be a kick-ass character this season. Not that he wasn't an interesting character last season. And Jen, don't hit me but I think Castiel does deserve some screen time but yeah I can understand you don't want it to be at the expense of Sam. I'm hoping that it'll be at the expense of both boys to some extent. Hey, they do need a break. Plus all those demon-hunters are going to be coming out of the woodwork.

Ok, I really gotta go have lunch now.

Angela, I felt the same way about Sam. Just his face. He looked like a sad puppy dog who knew he had messed up.

I was shattered by what Dean said, and the look on Sam's face when he said it.

You're probably right, in that the conversation with Demon!Bobby had an effect on the way Dean is thinking. That's not fair though, since Sam doesn't know about that conversation, so he can't realize that too. Also, by the time Dean talked to Sam, he already knew that Bobby was possessed, and therefore he should have thrown it all out the window. As far as the seals go, since Dean and Castiel, the only two who definitely know about Dean's part in it, seem content to pretend that the conversation between them at the end of On The Head of a Pin never happened, I'm guessing that's going to be a continuing trend. So I doubt it will ever be of any consequence.

What it would be nice for Dean to realize is that by being this way, he's failing Sam just as badly as Sam ever failed him. So at best, he's no better than his brother.

I do think you're on to something, about the wedge being driven between them, and about Dean falling for it. Why he's falling for it, I don't know, but it's not good. And I would have trusted the first Ruby too. I think if they'd left that role alone and not recast it, that people would understand Sam a lot better. She made it work.

Judging by the sound bite from next week's episode, where Castiel says something to Dean about how "your brother destroyed the world" or something to that effect, I'm not going to hold my breath about him changing Dean's mind. I do think that the angels need Sam for something still, because otherwise I think they would have done away with him already. What it is that they need, I don't know.

I'm not going to hit you! You're allowed to like Castiel just as much as I'm allowed to dislike him. Personally, I don't want him to have any more screen time because it will have to come at someone's expense, and it won't be Dean's. Or the guest stars. Or Lucifer's. Maybe Bobby's, MAYBE. He does deserve some screen time, and he gets plenty of it, IMO. He's a supporting character, no matter if Misha's a regular or not. He's not central to the entire story, because he's showing up too late in the game. Therefore, the other characters should feature more.

Then again, if all they'll let Sam do is grovel and apologize and get kicked around, maybe I'd rather watch Castiel than that.

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What I found odd about the episode. They need to explain how Bobby got possessed. He's the one that gave Dean and Sam anti-possession charms back in season 2; how the hell did he let a demon "get up in" him? Also, how did the fan-girl know the boys last name (she had a Winchesters sign up in her room) when Chuck clearly said that he never put that in the books, never even wrote it down?

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What I found odd about the episode. They need to explain how Bobby got possessed. He's the one that gave Dean and Sam anti-possession charms back in season 2; how the hell did he let a demon "get up in" him? Also, how did the fan-girl know the boys last name (she had a Winchesters sign up in her room) when Chuck clearly said that he never put that in the books, never even wrote it down?

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The episodes can be downloaded from iTunes or Amazon.com. But, I'm going to share something with you ladies. Anyone with internet access, a little space on their hard drive and Windows Media Player can have the episodes for free less than 12 hours after they air live here. It's how I burn my DVDs to watch until the official DVDs are released.

It's called torrent files. Some people upload the episodes to the internet in a torrent file within hours of them airing. You will need to download a program that will download them, I use Vuze.

Install Vuze and then go to a torrent site like isohunt and search for Supernatural, like this: isohunt Supernatural

I usually sort by age so the most recent episodes show up first. Scroll down to find the episode you want. Some things to look for are the files are usually about 350 MB in size, and look for a file with a lot of seeders and some stars and comments. Read the stars and comments which will tell you if it's a good copy (sometimes people post one thing and label it something else). The EZTV one is usually a good copy but you won't know it's from EZTV without looking at the comments.

Once you find the file you want, click on download this torrent. Make sure you use Vuze or another torrent opener to open the file as the torrent is actually very small. Vuze is what actually downloads the whole file.

The more people seeding the file, the faster the download usually goes. Be patient and in a short while, you should have the entire episode, in HD WITH NO COMMERCIALS.

Have at it!

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AHEM, Angela - the WHOLE epi???? Tell me where??????? LOL. If it's available to watch in Canada, lol, sometimes it's iffy...

Yes - the whole thing! I'll find the link and pm you

Jen - thanks again. Hopefully I'll be able to catch it online but it's great to know I can get a hold of it if needed. Much appreciated!

OMG!! Okay, I'll keep it brief...

Prophet Chuck is a definite favourite (it's been bugging me where I knew the actor from - must be from when Threshold was on tv a couple of years back).

Lol'd at the fangirl
Yay to kick ass Castiel!
Meg - good to see her but couldn't get used to the voice.
Think I'm going to like the guy playing host to Lucifer.
Hated, hated, hated when Bobby told Sam to lose his number and
didn't like the end when Dean told Sam he couldn't forgive/trust him and "I don't ever think we can be what we were".

Ohhhh Sam <--- this was me most of the episode.

Told you I'd be brief, lol. I think what everyone's posted covers it pretty well.
Obviously great to have Supernatural back - just need it to be next week already to see where this is going.

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