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Originally posted by -James-:
do you two cry to meet me on the emonox together?

I don't really hear much about emos anymore. Do they still exist?

I don't think they ever really existed. At some point some journalist groups a load of bands together and gives this 'movement' a name. Later an ill informed wider press names people who follow any or all of these bands by adding an S after the grouping name.

Then some younger people who were too young to get into see or find out about the records of the groups in the grouping start calling them selves the thing with an S and eventually form bands to sound like the original groups.

Then even younger kids start liking these bands and then the not so young kids feel disappointed that younger kids are turning up at their gigs, decide that the scene has sold out and start to use the thing that ends with an S as a term of abuse.

Somewhere along the way the first lot of bands that had no choice in being grouped into the thing are criticised for selling out because they don;t sound the same as they did eight years earlier or, God forbid, have a wider fan base.

The whole eventually ends up its own arse.

Maybe they didn't exist in Manchester. Emos definitely existed here in America. U S A! U S A!

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Originally posted by Tomatoes&RadioWires:
Yeah, that one.

Tut.

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Somewhere along the way the first lot of bands that had no choice in being grouped into the thing are criticised for selling out because they don;t sound the same as they did eight years earlier or, God forbid, have a wider fan base.

Just out of interest, who were the first lot. And who are the current lot?

I think that most people credit Fugazi as being pioneers of the genre, but the first I heard of Emo was in an NME article back in about 1998? (may have been a bit later). That I think listed Jets to Brazil, Dismemberment Plan, Promise Ring, possibly Burning Airlines, Jimmy Eat World and Sunny Day Real Estate.

I then used that Napster function to find people who were listening to these bands and then looked to find which other bands they were listening to and found Death Cab and Pedro the Lion (and a load of stuff that I quickly lost interest in like The Get Up Kids, Hot Water Music, Saves the Day, Texas is the Reason, Cap n Jazz etc.)

I liven in part of Manchester well, Salford actually, called Monton as was known by some people as Monton Emo Guy, which I wasn't.

Tut tut Mike. There are many people, including me, who would say that Salford is not actually part of Manchester, but a city in it's own right.

I think that's true isn't it?

Emo being short for what?

I always thought that it referred to such as My Chemical Romance, Funeral For A Friend, Bullet For My Valentine et al.

electronic music orchestra

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Originally posted by Graham Hall:
Tut tut Mike. There are many people, including me, who would say that Salford is not actually part of Manchester, but a city in it's own right.

I think that's true isn't it?

Emo being short for what?

I always thought that it referred to such as My Chemical Romance, Funeral For A Friend, Bullet For My Valentine et al.

I would vouch for Salford being a city in its own right (I'm the only other member of this board from there, to my knowledge), but a few years ago whenever anyone asked where I'm from, I'd say Manchester - it's easier to use as a rough geographical guide to anyone who doesn't know about Salford and it's also a way of avoiding the usual 'Oh dear' reactions from most of the people that do. At least we haven't got as bad a reputation as Moss Side.

As for emo, it's short for 'emotional', based on the earlier bands that Mike mentioned - bands close to the punk and hardcore scene that started playing with arpeggios, more personal lyrics and enthusiastic delivery. The term's now mutated to engulf anything remotely-related to the genre that sounds heartfelt on the border of histrionic, which is why My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy have fallen into that bracket. BfmV are too heavy to be emo, but Funeral just about slip in. It's difficult to define.

Once, IWFYITD was bashed on American television as being 'emo' and suggestive of a suicide cult, but in reality it's nowhere near. DCFC were victims of their own crossover appeal in that respect.

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Originally posted by Graham Hall:
electronic music orchestra

Has someone cloned me here, or what?

ya what the hell, has someone cloned me?

i quite enjoy the grizzly bear soundtrack, eddy oh eddy.