I have been listening to a lot of death and dismemberment shows and the photo album of late and seriously is an amazing drummer just as good as Jason, the drum work in styrofoam plates especially is amazing. It seems Nathan & Jason are talked about the most by fans and mikey is left in the dark.
Posts: 394 | Location: Brisbane: Australia | Registered: 28 October 2008
I think Michael is over looked too much. I just think it was bad timing, for him in his personal life and he hit the band at a low point. Wasn't during that time that they thought about quitting?
So maybe he is remembered and associated with a bad place in time.
He joined The Long Winters briefly after DCFC, but quit them as he didn't want to be touring that much.
I though he was a really nice bloke, but then I didn't have to tour Spain in a small van with him, so what do I know.
Posts: 302 | Location: Manchester, England | Registered: 03 December 2005
Agreed yeah i have him on facebook and he is a really nice chap. He recently drummed on a new record, i'll try to find the link for you. Ah yeah i remember that same with Sean but i think sean was due to harvey danger and not enough time for long winters.
Posts: 394 | Location: Brisbane: Australia | Registered: 28 October 2008
I think Keith has a lot to answer for - and not just in dressing up as a Nazi - but in how he influence ridiculous drumming that distracted from the song. Having said that I love the Who - I think Quadrophenia is one of my all time faves.
Also, I saw the Who at Wembley Stadium in summer 79 and although Kenny ones (of teh Small Faces) is a legend, it was a bit sad that I never saw Moon wit the Who.
Posts: 302 | Location: Manchester, England | Registered: 03 December 2005
I just can't get into the who no matter how hard I try... there's something that's just not there for me. I think the songs are too simple or something like that... I've listened to them a whole bunch but I could never say that I was a fan.
The drumming is probably the best part. The bass is above average but I wouldn't put him at god status like some people seem to do.
I went back and listened to a few songs, and he really is pretty good. Styrofoam plates certainly is the stand out performance though. The song is in triple meter, which can be pretty difficult to drum to when most music is duple meter. I give him props for that.
I think he could have been part of the writing structure for the transatlanticism drumwork as it sounds like his style and some of those songs were written while he was still in the band i think. I could be wrong but. I wonder if he played on the 7"s?
Posts: 394 | Location: Brisbane: Australia | Registered: 28 October 2008
Originally posted by mikemccusker: I think Keith has a lot to answer for - and not just in dressing up as a Nazi - but in how he influence ridiculous drumming that distracted from the song. Having said that I love the Who - I think Quadrophenia is one of my all time faves.
Also, I saw the Who at Wembley Stadium in summer 79 and although Kenny ones (of teh Small Faces) is a legend, it was a bit sad that I never saw Moon wit the Who.
He was a complete geezer, whenever you see some lad in a shit indie band going ape on the drums its embarassing, but when Moon did it was immense.
Also, on your last point I hate it when bands carry on when original band members leave, apart from The Rolling Stones and Brian Jones it never works when an original member leaves.
Posts: 481 | Location: Manchester, England | Registered: 01 May 2008
While I'd like to think that, I'm not sure that that is too true... I mean, there have been quite a few bands that did well w/o (an) original member(s).
I think New Order is a good example... and while I don't exactly enjoy them, I know the red hot chilli peppers have had some lineup changes over the years. I think it's safe to say that those are exceptions, though. I think it can be especially weird when a band has been going on for a while and the members change.
Schorr's drumming is definitely a big part of why i hold such a high regard for the Photo Album. There's a drive and force on some of those tracks that you don't find on any other death cab album, and i think it has a lot to do with his particular drumming style - although i agree it goes a little over the top every once in a while. But even that i love when i'm in a certain mood. You just can't argue with We Laugh Indoors (that middle "solo" part is rad) or Styrofoam Plates. Even on Why You'd Want to Live Here ... i think the main reason i love that song is the whole rhythm and feel of it, just small things like the kick drum pattern. How it becomes more and more frequent throughout the verse. Or how the snare gets more and more intense. That's a big 'air drum' favourite of mine.
Even today, other than Transatlanticism, the PA songs are the ones where i turn to see what Jason's doing.
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Posts: 1265 | Location: Denmark | Registered: 29 August 2006
Originally posted by Steven.: While I'd like to think that, I'm not sure that that is too true... I mean, there have been quite a few bands that did well w/o (an) original member(s).
I think New Order is a good example... and while I don't exactly enjoy them, I know the red hot chilli peppers have had some lineup changes over the years. I think it's safe to say that those are exceptions, though. I think it can be especially weird when a band has been going on for a while and the members change.
That's what I mean, the original band member has to have been in the band a while. And New Order is a difficult one, because I see them as an original band rather than a continuation of Joy Division.
Posts: 481 | Location: Manchester, England | Registered: 01 May 2008
Ya I see what you're saying jim~ New Order kinda changed things around a bit and added a new member and all that.
I think you got it exactly right, though Kasper! The Photo Album is a good one to listen to because the drumming is so nice. Incidently, I think that album is when Chris started figuring out how to record drums, so it really helps to bring out some of the nuances that you pointed out in the drumming. I have to admit, thuogh, that I never realized all the stuff you pointed out about the drumming! Recently I've been listening to the Photo Album more and it dawned on me just how intense some of it is... the drumming has a lot of really unique things about it... like the drumming in Movie Script Ending- I think it's great.
I think garethrh did a good job of bringing this to light haha. I always read things like they just didn't work out... I never figured out if they meant musically or relationship wise... if ben meant they didn't work out musically then I'd be a little surprised because some of his drumming is brilliant.